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		<title>Georgia Medical Schools Take Steps to Stop Flow of Pharmaceutical Money</title>
		<link>http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2012/01/11/georgia-medical-schools-take-steps-to-stop-flow-of-pharmaceutical-money/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Story from PBA originally posted today <a href="http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wabe/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1892432/Atlanta./Medicals.Schools.Take.Steps.to.Limit.Flow.of.Pharmaceutical.Money.">here</a> where you can also listen to the radio interview.</p> <p>ATLANTA, GA (WABE) &#8211; In recent years, doctors have come under increased scrutiny about the money they receive from drug companies.</p> <p>Medical schools across the state are now taking steps to better police these relationships in order to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Story from PBA originally posted today <a href="http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wabe/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1892432/Atlanta./Medicals.Schools.Take.Steps.to.Limit.Flow.of.Pharmaceutical.Money.">here</a> where you can also listen to the radio interview.</p>
<p>ATLANTA, GA (WABE) &#8211; In recent years, doctors have come under increased scrutiny about the money they receive from drug companies.</p>
<p>Medical schools across the state are now taking steps to better police these relationships in order to avoid the appearance of biased research. </p>
<p>The Medical College of Georgia in Augusta has recently limited the gift amount doctors can receive from drugmakers to $25. </p>
<p>&#8220;Essentially you&#8217;re not to accept a gift in any dollar amount that directly influences your work or improperly influences it,&#8221; said Lee Little, a spokeswoman for the school. &#8220;We&#8217;re actually looking to adopt an electronic system for conflicts of interest reporting.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s part of growing trend to limit the influence of pharmaceutical money and protect the integrity of academic research. Studies have found that when doctors receive gifts or fees from a drug company, those doctors are more likely to prescribe that company&#8217;s products.</p>
<p>In a high profile case from 2008, a congressional investigation revealed that the head of Emory&#8217;s psychiatry department failed to report more than a million dollars of consulting fees from companies whose drugs he was evaluating in academic journals.</p>
<p>That doctor was forced to resign from his chairmanship and later left the school. </p>
<p>Emory has since adopted a strict disclosure policy and a preapproval process for any payments taken from drugmakers. </p>
<p>Kathy Kinlaw of the Emory Center for Ethics helped develop the policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;We basically have eliminated all contact for our medical students and our faculty as much as possible,&#8221; said Kinlaw. </p>
<p>However, with the arrival of these restrictions, some physicians are quietly complaining. They say the relationship exists in order for doctors to meet peers and learn about new research and drugs.</p>
<p>&#8220;The increase in requirements in disclosure and the requirements for preapproval that&#8217;s more coming from administration,&#8221; said Emory psychiatry professor Dr. Douglas Bremner. &#8220;I think the academic physicians are just watching their outside consulting income melt away and grumbling about it behind close doors.&#8221; </p>
<p>In any event, drugmakers are still spending big money. The investigative news website ProPublica says in the last three years, $20 million has been spent on Georgia&#8217;s medical practitioners, in and outside of medical school. </p>
<p>Donald Palmisano of the Medical Association of Georgia says these are important relationships, but doctors should disclose them if the patient has concerns. </p>
<p>&#8220;As long as the physician is disclosing and answering questions honestly about what their relationship is to a pharmaceutical company, I think it&#8217;s something if the patient has concerns about, then they should ask those questions,&#8221; said Palmisano.</p>
<p>Patients will have more information to go by in March when a new federal sunshine law will force drug companies to publicly disclose all payments made to doctors and other health professionals. © Copyright 2012, WABE </p>
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		<title>Caveat Emptor</title>
		<link>http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2011/08/08/caveat-emptor/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 02:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Book Reviews]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Or, Before You Take That Pill, the title of another of Dr. Bremner&#8217;s books, inform yourself about its effects, side effects and impact on overall health. Thanks to Dr. Bremner, Accutane, an acne medicine, is now off the market after causing depression. The drug also may have led to 300 suicides in Accutane-treated patients, which [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, Before You Take That Pill, the title of another of Dr. Bremner&#8217;s books, inform yourself about its effects, side effects and impact on overall health. Thanks to Dr. Bremner, Accutane, an acne medicine, is now off the market after causing depression. The drug also may have led to 300 suicides in Accutane-treated patients, which the FDA believes is a conservative number. The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg was actually the name of one of Hoffman LaRoche&#8217;s slides on Accutane, since it generated enormous profits for the company. </p>
<p>This is a heartrending story, both because of the deceptive opposition Hoffmann LaRoche and some of Dr. Bremner&#8217;s colleagues exercised against him once he discovered that Accutane was a source of depression and thus unsafe, and because of Dr. Bremner&#8217;s grief over his mother, who died when he was only four and a half years old. </p>
<p>After discovering the link between Accutane and depression, the drug was not immediately taken off the market. Instead, Roche mounted a campaign, including a long and grueling series of court depositions, to try to discredit Dr. Bremner&#8217;s findings however they could. They also accused him of fraud in a journal article he had published. </p>
<p>Woven throughout the story is Dr. Bremner&#8217;s search for information about his mother. He began his genealogical search online, tracking down relatives, anyone who might have known his mother. His unresolved grief and suppressed memories of his mother emerged as the stressful Roche-related events in his life unfolded. He was unsure if his career in academic psychiatry would continue to advance. Then, his marriage and family life were also affected by the stress caused by the depositions and his simultaneous search for his mother&#8217;s family and her grave. </p>
<p>Admitting that he was never one to rock the boat or be confrontational, as the story unfolds, Dr. Bremner finds his courage to see both trials through, though not without significant pain and suffering. By confronting his own painful memories, he is able to overcome every obstacle that would have derailed his quest for justice. </p>
<p>Through Dr. Bremner&#8217;s quest for his mother&#8217;s history, he is able to find her grave and hold a family memorial service. Around the same time, Roche takes Accutane off the market and his published article is found to be free of any alleged fraud. By seeing the injustice in Roche&#8217;s actions and being able to relate them to the injustice of not being permitted, as a child, to grieve for his mother, he was able to finally integrate that loss and honor his mother. </p>
<p>The story ends happily for Dr. Bremner and his family, including his wife Viola, who knitted him a scarf from wool taken from the sheep at his family&#8217;s former house in the state of Washington. This was the house where he lived until his mother died, and that he and his own family recently visited. The story is not only one of personal growth and tremendous courage, but also of how cautious patients should be concerning medication. Roche&#8217;s denial of the depression and suicide problem for the sake of maintaining their profit is a disgrace. Because of Dr. Bremner, at least one harmful drug is now off the market. The book is a powerful warning to become knowledgeable about other medicines and not to naively trust whatever Pharma may try to market &#8211; to you or your doctor. It is also a powerful testament to human courage, strength and love in the face of fear and pain and loss.</p>
<p>Review by Louise Gordon posted on Amazon <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Goose-That-Laid-Golden-ebook/product-reviews/B0057ZF1MK/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_recent?ie=UTF8&#038;showViewpoints=0&#038;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending">here</a>. </p>
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		<title>Can America be Saved?</title>
		<link>http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2011/08/03/can-america-be-saved/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Book Reviews]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Review by Jill Littrell, PhD, on Amazon <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Goose-That-Laid-Golden-Egg/product-reviews/1463648812/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_recent?ie=UTF8&#038;showViewpoints=0&#038;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending">here</a>.</p> <p>The Goose that Laid the Golden Egg is a historical account of the personal life of Doug Bremner that details his quest to honor his deceased mother with a proper funeral and the simultaneous investigation initiated by Roche Pharmaceutical to discredit Dr. Bremner in retaliation for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Review by Jill Littrell, PhD, on Amazon <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Goose-That-Laid-Golden-Egg/product-reviews/1463648812/ref=cm_cr_pr_top_recent?ie=UTF8&#038;showViewpoints=0&#038;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending">here</a>.</p>
<p>The Goose that Laid the Golden Egg is a historical account of the personal life of Doug Bremner that details his quest to honor his deceased mother with a proper funeral and the simultaneous investigation initiated by Roche Pharmaceutical to discredit Dr. Bremner in retaliation for his study establishing the link between a drug to treat acne and suicidal behavior in teenagers. While the book is essentially about one human being and his family, it has implications for public health. The book details the extent to which the pharmaceutical houses will go in protecting their market share. After reading the book, the reader will appreciate the pressures on individual doctors to buy the propaganda and essentially become sales people for the pharmaceuticals. It explains why few doctors will be willing to tell the truth, ask the right questions in their research, and make an unbiased appraisal of the best treatment for patients. </p>
<p>I am a clinical psychologist with a masters degree in Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics. I regularly attend grand rounds in the Emory psychiatry department as well as lectures in Neuroscience at Emory and Georgia State. What fascinates me is how the very smart people in the psychiatry department can totally miss the obvious. In 1994, I published an article contrasting long term outcomes for major depression before and after drugs. About the same time, Giovanni Fava published a paper also documenting the very worse outcomes in those treated with anti-depressants compared to outcomes found before the drugs. I argued that rapid relapse to depression in the medicated reflected drug withdrawal. Fava argued that drugs change the brain in such a way such that an acute condition becomes chronic. As I listen to the psychiatrist at Emory deliberating about genotyping patients to investigate why some people respond to antidepressants while many do not, I wondered why no one is looking at long term exposure to drugs. Drug trials typically last 6-8 weeks. Patients are on drugs for decades. Since the drugs are likely to impact many cells in the body, shouldn&#8217;t questions be asked about more than one organ system? Shouldn&#8217;t long term effects be investigated? Shouldn&#8217;t someone ask how to get people off anti-depressants? (There is a small literature on anti-depressant drug withdrawal, but no studies on how to safely withdraw patients.) I frequently come home from lectures, totally forlorn about the extent to which psychiatrists don&#8217;t get it. My husband reminds me that if psychiatrists started asking honest questions, they might be out of a job. It&#8217;s just too much to ask of ordinary human beings. </p>
<p>My other hobby is reading books on economics, particularly the subprime lending scandal and the banking crisis of 2008. In Ferguson&#8217;s documentary film Inside Job, he details how investment banks corrupted academic economists by giving them big consulting fees and appointing professors to various boards. It worked. The zeitgeist was to extol the virtues of the free-market system. I was struck by the parallels between academic economics and academic medicine. As Marcia Angell, former editor for New England Journal of Medicine, explains in last month&#8217;s New York Review of Books academic medicine has been corrupted. Given that health care costs are soaring, how long can America continue to offer treatments which make big profits for drug companies while making people sick? I think Doug Bremner&#8217;s moving account helps to diagnose what is wrong with America. </p>
<p>You can find more highlights from reviews and read chapter one of The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg <a href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2011/07/27/the-goose-that-laid-the-golden-egg-2/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Dollars for Docs &#8211; New Series from ProPublica</title>
		<link>http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2010/10/19/dollars-for-docs-new-series-from-propublica/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Continuing Medical Education]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>There is a new series of investigative journalism pieces from ProPublica about payments by pharmaceutical companies to physicians as well as a widget you can use to look up your own doctor to see if they are on the payroll.</p> <p>In <a href="http://www.propublica.org/article/dollars-to-doctors-physician-disciplinary-records">this article</a> they write about how there are 348 physicians in the US [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new series of investigative journalism pieces from ProPublica about payments by pharmaceutical companies to physicians as well as a widget you can use to look up your own doctor to see if they are on the payroll.</p>
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<p>In <a href="http://www.propublica.org/article/dollars-to-doctors-physician-disciplinary-records">this article</a> they write about how there are 348 physicians in the US who make over $100,000 per year giving lectures for drug companies, and that many of them lack board certification or have undergone various disciplinary actions. The picture shows that most do not have academic credentials or research backgrounds, and in some cases are working primarily as hired guns to promote the company&#8217;s viewpoint. Obviously the drug companies want academics from prestigious schools to be their pitchmen, but when push comes to shove, they will take someone who will pitch their products over someone who is going to give a balanced view.<br />
And the public doesn&#8217;t like it. A<a href="http://blogs.consumerreports.org/health/2010/10/propublica-drug-company-payments-to-doctors-disturb-most-of-us-our-poll-finds.html"> poll by Consumer Reports </a>found that 74% of Americans think it is a problem when doctors get paid by drug companies, 70% think that doctors should make those payments known, and 69% feel that drug companies have too much influence.<br />
The solution, of course, would be to make doctors pay for their own education, the way lawyers or journalists do. If some corporation provided &#8220;free education&#8221; to journalists, given by other journalists on their payroll, and they actively added or dropped speakers based on whether or not they were getting across their &#8220;message&#8221;, wouldn&#8217;t we be outraged?</p>
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		<title>Interview of Me By Neil Shulman MD About Problems With The Pharmaceutical Industry</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Interview of me by Neil Shulman MD about my experiences with the pharmaceutical industry. Exclusive footage you won&#8217;t see on the mainstream media.</p> <p>Part 1</p> <p></p> <p>Part 2</p> <p></p> <p>Part 3</p> <p></p> <p>Part 4</p> <p></p> <p>Part 5</p> <p></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interview of me by Neil Shulman MD about my experiences with the pharmaceutical industry. Exclusive footage you won&#8217;t see on the mainstream media.</p>
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		<title>Guest Post on Dear Thyroid Blog: Are We Suffering From Medication Madness?</title>
		<link>http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2010/03/02/guest-post-on-dear-thyroid-blog-are-we-suffering-from-medication-madness/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I justed posted a guest blog on the Dear Thyroid website, which is a advocacy group for patients with thyroid disease <a href="http://dearthyroid.org/are-we-suffering-from-medication-madness/">here</a>.</p> <p><a style="FILTER: alpha(opacity=0); ZOOM: 1"> </a><a style="FILTER: alpha(opacity=0); ZOOM: 1"> </a><a style="FILTER: alpha(opacity=0); ZOOM: 1"> </a><a style="FILTER: alpha(opacity=100); ZOOM: 1"> </a></p> Some patients have scars from their thyroidectomies, I clutch my neck [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I justed posted a guest blog on the Dear Thyroid website, which is a advocacy group for patients with thyroid disease <a href="http://dearthyroid.org/are-we-suffering-from-medication-madness/">here</a>.</p>
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<h2>Are We Suffering From Medication Madness?</h2>
<p><span style="COLOR: #ff0000"><a title="Posts by dearthyroid" href="http://dearthyroid.org/author/dearthyroid/">dearthyroid</a> | Tuesday, March 2nd, 2010 | <a title="Comment on Are We Suffering From Medication Madness?" href="http://dearthyroid.org/are-we-suffering-from-medication-madness/#comments">1 Comment »</a> </span></p>
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<p><em>Written by, Doug Bremner, MD</em></p>
<p>It seems like the healthcare system in America has gone completely bananas. It looks like the effort to “fix” the system through healthcare reform is making things worse.</p>
<p>I’m going to be honest with you. I am a physician and I believe</p></div>
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		<title>Dollars for Docs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A local FOX Atlanta show, you can see me and read about it <a href="http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/fox-5-special%3A-dollars-for-docs-021010">here</a>.</p> <p>Reported By: Beth Galvin &#124; Edited By: Leigha Baugham</p> <p>Nearly 20 percent of American doctors get paid by drug companies to be consultants or speakers, and in some cases, they&#8217;re making quite a lot of money. So does that influence [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A local FOX Atlanta show, you can see me and read about it <a href="http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/fox-5-special%3A-dollars-for-docs-021010">here</a>.</p>
<p>Reported By: Beth Galvin | Edited By: Leigha Baugham</p>
<p>Nearly 20 percent of American doctors get paid by drug companies to be consultants or speakers, and in some cases, they&#8217;re making quite a lot of money. So does that influence the decisions your doctor makes about your care?</p>
<p>Doctors earn money by giving professional talks to their peers about the latest research and the practice is pretty common.</p>
<p>For years it&#8217;s been unclear how much money physicians were actually earning for these speeches. Now, three major drug companies are going public revealing who is on their payrolls and how much money they&#8217;re making.</p>
<p>On Eli Lilly&#8217;s website, the company lists faculty on the drug company&#8217;s payrolls, including educators, advisors and contractors.</p>
<p>Nearly 200 Georgia doctors are on the list and they pulled in over $2.2 million dollars last year.</p>
<p>Some of Georgia&#8217;s highest paid physicians on the list are Emory urologist Dr. Muta Issa, who earned $ 91,000 from GlaxoSmithKline. Atlanta endocrinologist Dr. David Robertson cashed in over $78,000 from Eli Lilly and Roswell psychiatrist Dr. Michael Banov banked over $68,000 from Eli Lilly.</p>
<p>Some healthcare providers are earning much more by working for several companies at the same time.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s common, that people who are very active, can make several hundred thousand dollars or more,&#8221; said Emory psychiatrist, Dr. Doug Bremner. </p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t sell medications. We simply educate physicians about data, and they make their own mind up,&#8221; said Dr. Banov.</p>
<p>Dr. Banov, a private practice psychiatrist, was paid over $68,000 by Eli Lilly. The Roswell doctor said he gives speeches for about five companies with competing medications.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think my patients welcome the fact they have a doctor who is meeting other doctors, actively involved in research, actively communicating with other physicians, someone who&#8217;s on top of the game,&#8221; Dr. Banov said.</p>
<p>Dr. Banov said the drug company, not him, creates the materials used in his speeches, and he also said there&#8217;s a reason for that. &#8220;We are only able to present the data. We&#8217;re not able to present our personal opinions, our personal preferences, how we use the medication off label, any of that. So we&#8217;re held to a very tight standard by the FDA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Emory&#8217;s Dr. Bremner said he thought paying doctors to speak for drug makers was a bad idea. Bremner said he used to do it, until he got a wakeup call about six years ago.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was going out to give a talk and the sales, the marketing guy like, slapped me on the back and said, &#8216;Go on out there and sell some,&#8217; I&#8217;m not going to say the name of the drug. &#8216;Sell some of that drug,&#8217;&#8221; said Dr. Bremner.</p>
<p>Dr. Bremner said he worried that even the most independent doctor can get hooked on all that extra cash coming in. &#8220;Doctors are human, and once you get into this routine of making outside income, you become dependent on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>When asked how receiving money from the drug companies could from influencing how a doctor treats a patient, Dr. Banov said, &#8220;When I close that door, and I&#8217;m with a patient, my 100 percent interest is in getting that patient better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last fall, Emory University&#8217;s School of Medicine banned staffers from making promotional talks for drug companies after congressional investigators accused the school&#8217;s chief of psychiatry, Dr. Charles Nemeroff of failing to report to the university over a million dollars he got from pharmaceutical and medical device manufacturers.</p>
<p>Dr. Nemeroff resigned his chairmanship, and has since left the school.</p>
<p>Another Emory staffer, urologist Dr. Issa listed his earnings as $91,000 in the first three months of 2009 from GlaxoSmithKline. Dr. Issa declined to comment on this story. A school spokesperson said Dr. Issa left the speaker&#8217;s bureau when Emory changed its policies.</p>
<p>Atlanta diabetes specialist Dr. David Robertson, who earned $78,000 for giving 47 promotional talks for Eli Lilly, said he only speaks about medications he actually prescribes.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think a presentation a physician makes should represent their own practice,&#8221; said Dr. Robertson. The doctor did admit that some physicians spend too much time promoting too many products. &#8220;That&#8217;s bad for everyone. That&#8217;s bad for the pharmaceutical companies, that&#8217;s bad for physicians as a profession and that&#8217;s bad probably for physicians as recipients of information because they become mistrustful.&#8221;</p>
<p>So are public lists like this a good thing?</p>
<p>Doctors on both sides say yes.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s gotten to the point where the public is looking at it for what it is and they&#8217;re saying, &#8216;What&#8217;s going on here?&#8217;&#8221; said Dr. Bremner.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why not let the public know? There is nothing to hide. There is no shame. We&#8217;re not doing anything illegal,&#8221; said Dr. Banov. &#8220;I think it&#8217;s terrific. [It] should be completely open.&#8221;</p>
<p>So far, GlaxoSmithKline, Eli Lilly and Merck have published online lists of who&#8217;s on their payroll. Pfizer will be doing the same this spring.</p>
<p>Related Links: statements and public registries for <a href="http://www.lillyfacultyregistry.com/lilly-registry-report.jsp">Eli Lilly</a>,  <a href="http://www.merck.com/corporate-responsibility//business-ethics-transparency/ethics-financial-support-third-parties/payments-us-hcp/home.html">Merck</a> (also see <a href="http://www.merck.com/corporate-responsibility/docs/business-ethics-transparency/3Q09-Transparency-Report.pdf"> here</a>) and<br />
<a href="http://gsk-us.com/html/responsibility/work-with-healthcare-professionals.html"><br />
GlaxoSmithKline</a> (also see <a href="http://gsk-us.com/docs-pdf/responsibility/hcp-fee-disclosure-2q2009.pdf">here</a>). </p>
<p>Complete statement from Emory University School of Medicine regarding its new Conflict of Interest policy.</p>
<p>“In June of 2009, Emory&#8217;s School of Medicine adopted a comprehensive new policy governing faculty relationships with industry. The policy meets the recommendations of the Association of American Medical Colleges, the Association of American Universities, and the Institute of Medicine. Professors Issa, Pacifici, and Schulman are respected faculty members who are in compliance with that policy. Dr. Nemeroff resigned his position at Emory in fall of 2009 to become chair of psychiatry at another medical school.”</p>
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		<title>Pharma Giles on The Australasian Journal of Boneheads &amp; Joints</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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A furore has erupted following The Scientist magazine’s revelations that Phoni Pharmaceuticals paid an undisclosed sum to scientific vanity publisher Elsleazier to produce several volumes of a publication that had the look of a peer-reviewed medical journal but which contained only reprinted or summarized articles, most of which presented data favourable to Phoni products. The journal appeared to act solely as a marketing tool with no disclosure of company sponsorship.</p>
<p>The Australian Journal of Boneheads and Joint Medicine, which was published by Extracta Moneya, a division of Dutch scientific publishing juggernaut Greed-Elsleazier, also contained little in the way of advertisements apart from ads for Formonimax, a Phoni drug for osteoporosis, and Viletoxx, Phoni’s controversial pain-killer.</p>
<p>In a statement provided last week to The Scientist, an eminent Australian physician and long-time member of the World Association of Medical Editors reviewed four issues of the journal that were published from 2003-2004.</p>
<p>“An average reader, such as a doctor, could easily mistake the publication for a genuine peer reviewed medical journal”, he said. &#8220;Only close inspection of the journals, along with knowledge of medical journals and publishing conventions, enabled me to determine that the Journal was not, in fact, a peer reviewed medical journal, but instead a marketing publication for Phoni.&#8221;</p>
<p>“They’ve done a heck of good job, and it was only when I noticed that some of the names of the so-called “honorary editorial board” appeared to be made up that I became suspicious,” the reviewer admitted.</p>
<p>“Professor Phil. I. Daftwhoofing appears to be an anagram of “Ripping Off Fools Who Read This,” for example. Similarly, Dr. Leon Theophuleet is an anagram of “Pulled The Other One”. And “Gill Ripcheap” seems to be an anagram of Rich Pillager, who I believe is Phoni’s Head of Global Marketing…”</p>
<p>A spokesperson for Elsleazier, however, told The Scientist, &#8220;All of our journals are thoroughly peer-reviewed prior to publication, by our accountants. Our company would never publish a journal unless it was guaranteed to make us lots of money. After all, our publications are well-known for the standards they deliver – standards of living for our publishing executives, that is…&#8221;</p>
<p>Disclosure of Phoni&#8217;s funding of the journal was not mentioned anywhere in the copies of issues obtained by The Scientist. Elsleazier acknowledged that Phoni had sponsored the publication, but did not disclose the amount the drug company paid.</p>
<p>The spokesperson added that Elsleazier had no plans to look further into the matter. “The high prices of subscriptions to our journals are a guarantee of their quality,” he said. “After all, everyone recognises the quality of Australian scientific publications, in the same way that American diplomacy journals or Nigerian accountancy and banking magazines are regarded…”</p>
<p>One of the genuine members of the Australian Journal of Boneheads and Joint Medicine&#8217;s &#8220;Honorary Editorial Board,&#8221; Dr. Táké Bakhandar, a rheumatologist in Australia, said he was delighted to serve on the board, however. Dr. Bakhandar has been on Phoni&#8217;s Asian Pacific and international advisory boards since the mid 1990s, as well as the advisory boards of other pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer and Amgen.</p>
<p>&#8220;You get involved in a whole bunch of things at this level,&#8221; he said, adding that he had put his name on &#8220;quite a few advertorials&#8221; for pharmaceutical companies in the past 10 years. “I’m delighted to be able to promote the life-enhancing products of the pharmaceutical industry,” Dr. Bakhandar said.</p>
<p>His colleague and fellow member of the Australian Journal of Boneheads and Joint Medicine&#8217;s Honorary Editorial Board, Dr. Pádme Baksheesh, agreed. “My own observations conclusively show that there is a direct relationship between the number of products I plug for pharmaceutical companies, and the degree to which my life is enhanced,” he said.</p>
<p>Rich Pillager, Head of Global Marketing for Phoni Pharm. Inc. was also unrepentant.</p>
<p>“The Australian Journal of Boneheads and Joint Medicine” is an important tool in Phoni’s CME (Continuing Medical Education) programme,” he said.</p>
<p>“After all, we’ve been putting out advertorials for years. Everyone remembers our series of children’s books that were designed to promote the use of Phoni’s SSRI Saloadatat in children, for example,” Pillager notes, referring to the controversial “Mr. Bipolar” book based on the UK “Mr. Men” franchise.</p>
<p>“Our competitors have been doing exactly the same thing, only we’re aiming our latest fairy tales at the adult market. I can’t see what the problem is,” he frothed rabidly.</p>
<p>[this was a spoof piece but unfortunately the quote<br />
"You get involved in a whole bunch of things at this level,"<br />
was real, and the fake journal was real as well]</p>
<p>For more of Pharma Giles work see his hilarious children&#8217;s book <a href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/04/21/what-ever-happened-to-pharmagiles/" target="_blank">&#8216;The Story of Modern Medicine&#8217;</a>.<br />
[via <a href="http://pharmagossip.blogspot.com" target="_blank">pharmagossip</a> and <a href="http://scientific-misconduct.blogspot.com" target="_blank">scientific misconduct</a> blogs. Hat tip to Dan Abshear]</p>
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		<title>The Pharmaceutical Litigation Consultant, by Pharma Giles</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 09:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the good things in life. Like liquor, women, reading, chess and working alone. I’m educated enough to speak English if I’m required to. I used to work for the Big P, but was fired for insubordination, thus starting a cliche that still hasn't run out of steam. But I'm all done with hating them. It's all washed out of me. I hate pharmaceutical companies hard, but I don't hate them very long. How many ex-marketing VPs are there out there that have become litigation consultants? Not many.

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<p>It all started that night in my office. There I was sitting in the dark, leaning back in my chair, my legs propped up on the desk. If there was one thing better than having a phone that never rang, it was having two phones that never rang.</p>
<p>The smoke from the cigarettes was floating around my head and the whiskey was tasting better with each swallow. On the radio Sinatra was crooning &#8220;I&#8217;ve Got The World On A String.&#8221; Yeah!</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t had a case in weeks and I was seriously thinking about getting a new line of work. Being a pharmaceutical litigation consultant just wasn&#8217;t paying the bills.</p>
<p>I like the good things in life. Like liquor, women, reading, chess and working alone. I’m educated enough to speak English if I’m required to. I used to work for the Big P, but was fired for insubordination, thus starting a cliche that still hasn&#8217;t run out of steam. But I&#8217;m all done with hating them. It&#8217;s all washed out of me. I hate pharmaceutical companies hard, but I don&#8217;t hate them very long. How many ex-marketing VPs are there out there that have become litigation consultants? Not many.</p>
<p>I needed a drink. I needed a lot of life insurance. I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat and an overdraft.</p>
<p>So here I am in 2008. I&#8217;ve turned fifty and what do I have to show for it? A second floor office (that doubles as my abode since I was booted out of my apartment) above a two-bit saloon in downtown Peapack NJ that serves watered down drinks and has a neon sign that is driving me wacky. A &#8217;05 Lincoln Continental that I bought with my last pay check pay from the Big P in 2005. A black suit with two pair of pants, and a broken computer from one of the many working overs it’s taken since I became a Hard Boiled Blogger.</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve got the world on a string all right&#8230;</p>
<p>Then came the knock at the door.</p>
<p>I could see through the frosted window on the door into the lighted hallway that it was a dame. And boy, what a dame! The outline of her body looked like an hourglass with a head on it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Come in,&#8221; I said. As she started into the room I reached for the desk lamp.</p>
<p>&#8220;No,&#8221; she drawls in a Mae West voice, &#8220;I prefer the dark side.&#8221;</p>
<p>As she walked closer to me I could see her face, lit by the flashing neon light shining through the window. She had long brown hair that hung to her shoulders. Her green eyes sparkled from the flashing light. Her full lips were covered with ruby red lipstick, smiling a smile that hit me smack in the libido. She must have greased up real good to fit into that dress.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you the one they call, ‘the Doc’?&#8221; she purred, interrupting my inventory of her.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah,&#8221; I replied. I felt like that wolf in those Tex Avery cartoons, with my tongue hanging to the floor and my eyes popped out of my head a foot. &#8220;Have a seat,&#8221; I managed to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;No thank you, I prefer to stand. My name is Linda. But you can call me Mrs. Robinson. Tell me Doc, just what do you want most out of life?&#8221; she asked.</p>
<p>I was in luck. Philosophy was my long suite. &#8220;A thousand a day, plus expenses,&#8221; I told her.</p>
<p>Without batting an eye, she reached into her big black purse and pulled out a big wedge of smackers. She then threw it on the desk in front of me. &#8220;Ten days, in advance,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Well, here’s to you, Mrs. Robinson. I just love it when women talk dirty. And this broad spoke my language.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, what&#8217;s the case?&#8221; I asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;You are,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>“Case solved,” I replied. &#8220;That&#8217;ll only cost you five thousand bucks.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No,&#8221; she said, &#8220;you don&#8217;t understand. My clients are a little concerned about your Chinese friend. They want you to call her off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I only had one Chinese-sounding friend. A little lady called Qui Tam. And I wasn’t about to sell her down the Suwannee, even for the Abe Lincoln picture collection that was lying on my desk right now.</p>
<p>“So just who are your clients?” I asked. I was getting wary of this dame. She was the kind who lied just to keep in practice.</p>
<p>“Is that any of your business?” she replied sweetly, her smile playing a rumba on my nether regions.</p>
<p>”I could make it my business,” I replied.</p>
<p>”I could make your business mine” she countered.</p>
<p>”Oh, you wouldn&#8217;t like it,” I told her. “The pay&#8217;s too small.”</p>
<p>Sure, the dame was sharp, but not sharp enough to cut the baloney. I knew I could end up making small talk all evening if I wasn’t careful. Talking to her was like trying to open a sardine can after you’d broke off the metal lip.</p>
<p>“So what’s a smart dame like you doing working for a bunch of crooks like the Big P?” I asked, hoping to make some headway.</p>
<p>She smiled. It hit me in the hip pocket. “It&#8217;s a long story and it’s not pretty,” she replied.</p>
<p>”I got lots of time and I&#8217;m not squeamish,” I shrugged.</p>
<p>Mrs Robinson sighed. My heart played hoopla in my chest. “Why do you bother with Qui Tam?” she pleaded. You know she’s no good for you.” She gestured to the greenbacks on my desk. “Why not take the money and give up on her? Why do you have to go on?”</p>
<p>It was a good question, and one that I’d often asked on those long lonely nights when sleep itself seems like a dream too good to be true.</p>
<p>“Because too many people have told me to stop,” I replied. “Trouble is, I&#8217;m a romantic at heart, see? I hear voices crying in the night and I go to see what&#8217;s the matter. I know I don&#8217;t make a dime that way. There’s no percentage in it at all. But it’s just something I do.”</p>
<p>It was all beginning to make sense, in a screwy sort of a way. I get dragged in and get money shoved at me. I get pushed out and get money shoved at me. Everybody pushes me in, everybody pushes me out. Nobody wants me to DO anything. Okay, put a check in the mail. I cost a lot not to do anything. I get restless. Throw in a trip to Mexico.</p>
<p>“I hadn&#8217;t supposed there were enough whistleblowers these days to make litigation consultancy very attractive to a man like you.” she sneered.</p>
<p>”I stir up trouble on the side.”</p>
<p>“You know, I think you&#8217;re nuts. You go barging around without a very clear idea of what you&#8217;re doing. Everybody bats you down, smacks you over the head, fills you full of stuff and you keep right on hitting between tackle and end. I don&#8217;t think you even know which SIDE you&#8217;re on.”</p>
<p>”I don&#8217;t know which side anybody&#8217;s on. I don&#8217;t even know who&#8217;s playing today. I had more careers than you’ve had lovers, sweetheart, and they’ve gone just the same way. Don’t try and ask me why.”</p>
<p>“I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t like your manners.”</p>
<p>“Yeah, I&#8217;ve had complaints about them, but they keep getting worse. I grieve over them on long winter evenings.”</p>
<p>Mrs. Robinson finally turned off the megawatt smile. My libido breathed easy.</p>
<p>“I think we’re done talking, Doc,” she said. &#8220;I&#8217;m at the Courtyard Marriot, Basking Ridge, New Jersey, room 108. Let me know if you change your mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>She turned and walked out of the office. &#8220;I&#8217;ll be waiting,&#8221; she purred.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t keep my eyes off her swaying hips as she walked towards the stairway and disappeared down the steps. The smell of her perfume lingered on after she left. I could hear the radio again now that she was gone, although it was playing the whole time she was here, Eddie Fisher was singing &#8220;I&#8217;m Walking Behind You,&#8221; and in my mind I was walking behind Mrs. Robinson.</p>
<p>I got up and looked out the window just in time to see her getting into a big red Caddy. Holding the door for her was the biggest guy in the world, at least 6&#8217;6&#8243; and 400 pounds. As she was getting into the car, she glanced up at me with a look that could melt your heart.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tiny&#8221; also looked up at me. His stare could have melted iron. As they drove away, I couldn&#8217;t get her out of my head.</p>
<p>But I couldn’t give up on Qui Tam. She was all I had lived for these past two years. I had put in too much to get out. It was a matter of pride. But pride doesn’t pay the rent. I walked over to the coach and laid down. I tried to get some shut-eye but all I could do was think of Mrs. Robinson. And her client’s money.</p>
<p>[via <a href="http://peterrost.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Peter Rost MD blog</a>]</p>
<p>Read more Pharma Giles <a href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/04/21/what-ever-happened-to-pharmagiles/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Kalling All KOLs: Shopping List for Docs, Get In Line</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug Bremner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I have written about before, sociologists know that there is a group of innovators, early adaptors, and then the "herd" that follows along (see "Diffusion of Innovations in Service Organizations" or "Disseminating Innovations in Healthcare"). It is true for farmers in Costa Rica adopting a new type of grain seed, or for psychiatrists prescribing a new brand of antipsychotic. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the news this week is this <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-05-14-influential-doctors-qforma_N.htm" target="_blank">story</a> about a company called <a href="http://www.qforma.com/">qforma</a> that creates lists of influential doctors that they of course sell to people who want to use the information for, well, whatever. In the online comments response to the story a lot of doctors flipped out and started making comments about how those weren&#8217;t the docs that they would recommend, etc. etc. Those docs totally miss the point that drug companies don&#8217;t care who the *actual* best docs are, they just want to know who are the docs are that will help them sell their drugs the most. And those are a mixture of researchers, schmoozers, and a combination thereof.</p>
<p>As I have written about before, sociologists know that there is a group of innovators, early adaptors, and then the &#8220;herd&#8221; that follows along (see &#8220;<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15595944?dopt=Abstract" target="_blank">Diffusion of Innovations in Service Organizations</a>&#8221; or &#8220;<a href="http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/289/15/1969" target="_blank">Disseminating Innovations in Healthcare</a>&#8220;). It is true for farmers in Costa Rica adopting a new type of grain seed, or for psychiatrists prescribing a new brand of antipsychotic.</p>
<div id="attachment_2845" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 487px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-2845" href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/05/19/kalling-all-kols-shopping-list-for-docs-get-in-line/adopters2/"><img class="size-full wp-image-2845" title="Although a new and superior kind of seed was introduced in 1925 it took another 10 years for all farmers to adopt it." src="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/adopters2.jpg" alt="Although a new and superior kind of seed was introduced in 1925 it took another 10 years for all farmers to adopt it." width="477" height="298" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Although a new and superior kind of seed was introduced in 1925 it took another 10 years for all farmers to adopt it.</p></div>
<p>Doctors don&#8217;t &#8220;read&#8221; the literature and then go out there and make a decision about what they should do. They look to their &#8220;mentors&#8221; or the early innovators, in this case their professors from medical school, or their surrogates.</p>
<div id="attachment_2846" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 531px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-2846" href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/05/19/kalling-all-kols-shopping-list-for-docs-get-in-line/adopters/"><img class="size-full wp-image-2846" title="Human behavior dictates that a few early adopters are looked to for guidance by most" src="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/adopters.jpg" alt="Human behavior dictates that a few early adopters are looked to for guidance by most" width="521" height="452" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Human behavior dictates that a few early adopters are looked to for guidance by most</p></div>
<p>Most look to the early adopters defined asÂ &#8221;experts&#8221; in the medical field, who are often branded as such at national professional meetings with the support of the pharmaceutical industry, who have coined the term &#8220;key opinion leader&#8221; or KOL. They, unfortunately, are often heavily subsidized by the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
<p>Qform is a business, and they are not developing a list of KOLs in every city and speciality for their own amusement, or to help people find doctors. They are doing it because they can make money by selling the lists to others who can make money by identifying the KOLs. They are selling influence. To see another particularly egregious example, take a look at the company called <a href="http://www.kolonline.com/" target="_blank">kolonline</a>, where they openly boast on the internet about their ability to &#8220;manage&#8221; your kol for you (their words, not mine). I couldn&#8217;t believe it either when I first saw this.</p>
<div id="attachment_2875" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 429px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-2875" href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/05/19/kalling-all-kols-shopping-list-for-docs-get-in-line/call_girl/"><img class="size-full wp-image-2875" title="call_girl" src="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/call_girl.jpg" alt="So I guess that would make kolonline... what?" width="419" height="615" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">So I guess that would make kolonline... what?</p></div>
<p>From their website:</p>
<blockquote><p>As our name implies, we are a company devoted to providing Key Opinion Leader software and Key Opinion Leader Management services for pharmaceutical, biotechnology and device companies. We have invented two (2) world-class proprietary web-based applications for managing and developing relationships with KOLs (some have described them as â€˜knowledge management systemsâ€™). More importantly, because we have actual real-world experience from working in the Pharma industry we provide unparalleled service and consulting. We have held positions in medical/scientific affairs, medical science liaisons, medical education, drug information, sales training, strategic marketing, product management and field sales.</p>
<p>The principals in KOL, L.L.C. have deep experience in cardiology, anti-infective, pain management, diabetes, gastroenterology, urology, womenâ€™s health and central nervous system products. As such, we have developed personal relationships with many KOLs.</p>
<p>We are â€œThe Key to Opinion Leader Developmentâ„¢â€.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sidebar reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>We have developed a &#8220;validation tool&#8221; which provides a systematic, unbiased ranking of all the KOLs in OLms or ISCP.</p></blockquote>
<div id="attachment_2851" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-2851" href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/05/19/kalling-all-kols-shopping-list-for-docs-get-in-line/kol3/"><img class="size-full wp-image-2851" title="We can manage your key opinion leaders (KOLs) for you" src="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kol3.jpg" alt="We can manage your key opinion leaders (KOLs) for you" width="500" height="378" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">We can manage your key opinion leaders (KOLs) for you</p></div>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget their handy software, the Opinion Leader Management Service (OLms), a &#8220;web-based application with accompanying on-going services designed to help pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies:&#8221;</p>
<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Manage and develop KOLs</li>
<li>Demonstrate value to their organization (ROI)</li>
<li>Showcase MSL activities</li>
<li>Build and Monitor KOL Development Plans, Goals and Activities</li>
</ul>
<p>OLms provides:</p>
<ul>
<li>Convenient, secure, confidential, web-based access (24/7/365) to information about your KOLs, including their contact information, publications, presentations, trials, society memberships, etc (the KOL â€˜Knowledge Capitalâ€™) and links their activities to your core scientific concepts</li>
<li>KOL identification</li>
<li>KOL validation &#8211; provides an unbiased ranking of KOLs based on predetermined criteria to ensure consistency and avoid favoritism</li>
<li>Effective communication system â€“ users can enter notes and insights</li>
<li>Thousands of reports â€“ KOL contact info, KOL Development Plan goals and activities, compliance (consulting/confidentiality agreements), MSL monthly reports, etc</li>
<li>Service â€“ we build the records of each KOL and continually update them</li>
<li>Cost-effective KOL management â€“ our pricing is reasonable and OLms is designed to demonstrate a return on your investment (ROI)</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>How about their demo?</p>
<blockquote><p>As you can appreciate, for confidentiality reasons, we can not take you to any of our client sites; however we do have two (2) demonstration sites with generic, non-confidential information which will provide you an overview of the kind of information and service we provide. Because these demo sites are web-based, you and your colleagues can view from your office while we are in ours. Then, if we appear to be the “right wrench for the job”, we are happy to come to your office for a formal presentation. A demo normally takes about 30 minutes on line.</p></blockquote>
<p><div id="attachment_2881" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 264px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-2881" href="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/index.php/2009/05/19/kalling-all-kols-shopping-list-for-docs-get-in-line/wrench-woman/"><img class="size-full wp-image-2881" title="wrench-woman" src="http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/wrench-woman.jpg" alt="Do you think this wrench will work?" width="254" height="380" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Do you think this wrench will work?</p></div><br />
Hat tip to Marilyn Mann.</p>
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